Ebele Kemery:
让我们来谈谈男子气概及其在社会中的普遍性. Particularly how does it, in its current definition, influence culture?
韦德:
As we as leaders need to create…need to want culture adds, not culture fits…right? Because the culprit culture was created in the image of men, primarily white men. So when you enter in anything that is new into that culture, it’s adding to it, it can’t fit into it. So you and I would never actually fit into a certain corporate culture. 我们所做的就是给它添加东西,让它扩展和进化. So when I think of masculinity, I think of us having to broaden it.
Ebele Kemery:
这样你才能真正展现自己,把工作做到最好. 这样的话,我想谈谈在NFL的经历.
韦德(笑)
But recognizing that you did not come out ‘till after you retired.
韦德:
是的. 我要说的是,我没有出来. 我要说的是我邀请了全世界的人进来. Like, the idea of coming out, and everyone thinks of coming out of “the closet.” LGBT people are not wire hangers, we’re not smelly shoes, right.
[Ebele笑)
我们是真实的人, 当我们说某人还没有出来, 我们所说的, 你的意思是工作的责任在我身上. 嗯. The work is on heterosexual people to do your work so that you create the conditions for us to go, “Oh, 进来吧,让我看看我的内心到底发生了什么.”
Ebele Kemery:
Wade, how would you describe belonging and what does that mean to you?
韦德:
I think of belonging as having an organization that is creating the conditions for me to do my best work. 我开始做这项工作是因为我做了一些非常性别歧视的事情. 我在工作场所叫我的一位同事“甜心”. And when I called her “sweetie,” she looked at me and she said, “Don’t ever call me sweetie.” My actions had nothing to do with Erica and everything to do with me. And I had to realize that I would never have called a man “sweetie” and I had to wrestle with all of the ways that I had been socialized to treat women in the workplace differently. Accountability is not something that I’m doing because I don’t like you; something that I do because I believe in you and I believe that you can do better. Anytime you create the conditions for people not to do their best work, it is a leadership problem.
Ebele Kemery:
怎么样?.
韦德:
没有别的了,对吧?
Ebele Kemery:
如果我们做对了,未来会是什么样子?
韦德:
如果我们做对了,未来会是什么样子?
(沉默)
I would say it looks like that we actually don’t even need to have these conversations anymore.
结束